How difficult it is to be a climatologist…

Just  before COP-15 took place in Copenhagen in December 2009, unknow people broke into the computers of the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia and stole email correspondence of Prof. Jones, a major figure in the IPCC.  The issue received wide media coverage and was eventually referred to as Climategate. The story also started a flood on criticism of IPCC. To large extent, the criticism is fed by accumulated resentment about the bad manners of some leading climatologists and the quasi-religeous status confrerred to the Assessment Reports, certainly also including inputs from the anti-mitigation lobbies, the oil and and coal industry. In fact, there is some evidence that some secret services may have been behind the whole issue.

I don’t deny that some climatologists now behave as the “kings of the ring”; some of them tend to forget that their business is science – not politics (I also mentioned this in one of the introductory paragraphs in the great projects ” post). Jacques sent me a set of interesting articles from Le Monde (which I collected in a pdf that can be accessed here: controverses_diverses_IPCC_copenhagen_20091209_le-monde). If you go to the website of Le Monde you will also find an audio file with an interview of Gil Mahé, a well know hydrologist, who blames part of the problem on the fact that climate data (i.e. real unprocessed station data) are difficult to get at, for a number of reasons, mainly the fact that national meteorological services want to sell them (See footnote). It is difficult to say how the increased demand for climate data (Changnon &  Changnon, 2010) will eventually impact the trade… On one hand, Meteorological Services will use it to generate more income, but on the other hand, they may improve the quality and coverage of their networks to meet demand. This would be positive.

The result of the difficulty to access data is twofold: lack of transparency of many published climatological analyses – which does not improve the air of suspicion that surrounds some climatological analyses – , and also greater uncertainty than technically feasible in some analyses (see an example in the footnote).


Just in case someone wants to misinterpret me: I do believe that we humans contribute to modifying climate variability patterns, but I dislike climate mysticism and I don’t believe in the infallibility of the climate sacerdotes magni.

In matters of climate impacts, the rule is “the worse the prediction the better”, especially among the many “experts” who got their climatology training on CNN. In an impact assessment I was involved in, we had shown that some irrigated crops would benefit from climate change, provided sufficient water was available. One of the comments I got from a participant in the study was Are we sure this is the message we want to convey? I do not have any messages I want to convey: I carry out as honest as possible an impact assessment, and I describe the results. But the problem is that many “experts” have messages they want to convey. This is not science, this is religion (refer, again, to the post on the great projects, the section on climate manipulation). One of the articles in Le Monde recounts how the journal published by FNRS (French National Fund for Scientific Research) had been planning to include two articles on climate change in their 200912 issue, side by side, one by “mainstream” climatologists and the other by two geophysicists (Vincent Courtillot and Jean-Louis Le Mouël) who defend the “marginal” position according to which the warming is due to solar factors. Previous articles by Courtillot and Le Moël have been published in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, but the opposition of the “mainstreamers” was such that FNRS eventually gave in and… did not include any article on climate in their 200912 issue.  Again, is this the way science should work?  It is so dangerously reminiscent of the “Holy  Inquistion”…  I personally do believe that no-one has the right to tell others what to believe, what to eat, which language to use or how to dress… to name just a few. I don’t believe either that scientists have the mandate to guide the ignorant (most of them don’t care, actually, which is different from ignorance). There is much more to this subject, for instance, how deep is the knowledge of  Those-who-know? I very much like what Cedric wrote in his blog in 2007 (Lettre sur les ignorants à l’usage de ceux qui savent; Letter about the ignorant for the use of those who do know.)

The issue of non-public data does not apply only to meteorological services. Several times I have come across graphs published by insurance companies about climatic risk, but I was denied access to the original data by the authors. This applies, in particular, to much work done by insurance companies. The justification is always either “confidentiality” or the risk of giving away info to competitors.

The problem is not new either! In 20031203, I wrote the following note on the website of  the international society of agrometeorology:

On 13 Nov. 2003 the FAO agrometeorology Group sent requests to the FAO/WMO AGROMET-L and to CLIMLIST ask for help to locate average monthly station (point) Penman-Monteith data to be included in the new version of LocClim All replies we received except one offered gridded data. Each of them got an answer repeating what we said in the announcement, i.e. “we specifically exclude any data from global or local grids (Interpolated data and area-wide ones). We need real station data, with geographic coordinates and altitude”. Another example: earlier this year, I requested a friend in an African Meteorological Service to provide me actual rainfall data for some stations. He sent me data extracted from a popular 10-daily African rainfall grid produced in the US based on GTS data. This is not the place to discuss the complex differences between point data and pixel values, but I find it amazing that even national agrometeorological services use “highly imaginative” data rather than their own station information. I think this raises a very serious issue: many people no longer work with real data. Instead, they use a number of gridded average and “real-time” datasets around, often interpolated with unspecified methods and very large cell sizes. Maybe part of the problem is that meteorological services want money for their data, which leads many users, even at the national level (e.g. agronomic research) to resort to easily accessible grids, avoiding costs and administrative work. 10 years ago, the operational agrometeorologist had a real technical problem because there were no good tools available to spatially interpolate data. This issue was addressed from many sides; today gridding is no longer a serious problem in operational agrometeorology for most variables. Unfortunately, the result is that the perceived need for good data has decreased, as everything is somehow available as grids. We have replaced a real problem associated with the lack of ground data with a data processing problem, which is much easier to solve. We have somehow traded data for colour pictures. There is just no way to make proper weather impact assessments (and this is actually what agrometeorology is about) without adequate data. We have to do something about it.

I concluded by saying : Any suggestions?

There were none!

Related post: Climate change: vehemence Vs competence


D. Changnon & S.A Changnon, 2010. Major Growth in Some Business-Related Uses of Climate Information. J. Appl. Meteorol. Climatol., 49: 325-331


Selling climatic data is a wrong approach, as (1) there is very little demand for (and money in) individual data items, say, 21st December rainfall in Ferkessedougou and (2) there is more money in value-adding (analyses) that in raw data. Unfortunately, many meteorological services are far better at collecting data than using them! Finally (3) meteorological services tend to charge completely unrealistic amounts for data. For instance, while we were involved in a climate change impact study in Morocco (downloadable from here), I tried to add some Algerian data to improve impact assessments in eastern Morocco. For one station with 30 years of daily data (rainfall, maximum and minimum temperatures), we were asked 20,000 US$… which we could not afford.

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14 years ago

I really love agrometeorology as it relies a lot on our intelligence more than on observed data. I explain, during my PhD studies I was trying to link NDVI images with wheat yields in Morocco. A student in the university who was a “remote sensing technician” asked me how I can use image of 1km square pixels when wheat is grown in smaller plots than 1km, meaning that maybe I play with signals related to other crops? I answered to him using agronomic intelligence, ie. when vegetation of all other crops is green that’s mean that wheat is also healthy! I mean, in that case NDVI is just an indicator of the environment surrounding wheat, I don’t care if it capture wheat greeness or not. In agrometeorology, this is the case in many null hypothesis. An other example : during an experiment on no-till system, An economist “expert” from an international organization came to visit and “control” reliability of our experimental designs. We then presented to him our on-farm trial experiment on wheat, but he asked for the check! We tried to explained to him that we don’t need any check, as all surrounding fields are cultivated in a traditionnal way, ie. using conventional tillage. Unfortunately, he was very angry as he wanted to see a check because it is the way he learnt statistics!!
When imagination cannot save us, curiosity can sometimes be very helpfull. In the particular case of climatic data availability you talk about, the Web is fantastic. I experienced that also during my PhD studies when I had to use raw climatic data to run AMS, which is an FAO water balance model. Of course I also experienced the fact that my national meteorological administration wanted to sell me data. As my student budget was limited, I search like a crazy guy for data in the Web. What was my surprise to find really raw data for free!!!! I invite all agrometeorologist to have a look at What I mean, it’s our duty also to organize our defensive strategy, making free available data as much as possible on the Web.


14 years ago

Je relève un paradoxe : ‘I personally do believe that no-one has the right to tell others what to believe, what to eat, which language to use or how to dress…’. I believe … what to believe…

Cela rappelle le paradoxe de Rémy de Gourmont: Toutes les idées générales sont fausses; et ceci est une idée générale!

Ce qui est marrant, c’est que j’ai eu le même problème avec le sida! Je ne doute ni de la maladie, ni de l’épidémie, mais pas vraiment sur la base des données, mais plutôt sur celle des mécanismes en jeu. Pendant que j’étais à R. j’ai toujours refusé de citer des chiffres et des taux de prévalence… On ne savait tout simplement pas quel était le niveau dans les zones rurales. Le plus marrant c’est que des organismes tels que le FNUAP auprès de qui je plaidais, en vain des enquêtes sur la prévalence rurale n’en voyaient pas l’intérêt. Comme disait autrefois ce politicien américain : don’t bother me with the facts, I already have an opinion…

Comme la recherche, la politique, les institutions sont humaines: on retrouve les mêmes problèmes dans tous les domaines.

Peu après le premier choc pétrolier de 1973, dont on semble avoir tiré si peu de leçons, je me souviens avoir lu un entretien avec un expert du pétrole. En substance il disait qu’ils étaient à peu près 200 dans le monde à faire des estimations. Ils avaient des formations à peu près identiques quelle que soit leur nationalité. Le coût de se tromper si on défendait une opinion divergente était énorme, perte de réputation… par contre si on se trompait avec les autres il n’y avait aucun coût à se tromper ensemble, car de toute façon il n’y avait pas d’autre choix que de faire appel à eux.

D’ailleurs, à une toute petite échelle, j’ai connu ce problème avec le sida puisque je soulignais qu’il y avait une autre approche que médicale, liée au développement, mais cela n’intéressait (n’intéresse) personne! Le problème est dans le reflexe de troupeau, e.g. Les rats de Hamelin, les moutons de Panurge. Dans tous les domaines et à tous les niveaux!

14 years ago

I just wanted to put into perspective that sometimes raw data are not so crucial in agrometeorology and everything depend on the scale.

From one figure to another. I invite to to look at this wonderfull figure 8, I insert in my Website:

Many scientists and other less scientific people argue that we need technology, access to food, etc. if we want to adapt to climate change. But….We need oil to adapt! I remember some years ago that Saudi Arabia grew wheat in the desert thanks to oil.

14 years ago

Très bon site, et très bon article!

1 year ago

I am writing this 13 years after I published the original post. Climatologists seemed to have outgrown their totalitarian phase or, rather, they were made to understand that their political weight in the climate debate (let’ s call it that way!) is basically zero. Many people, including myself, believe that “climate terrorism”, i.e. systematic opposition to climate adverse decisions by business and politicians is the right approach. This the philosophy of Extinction rebellion who refer to themselves as XR.

Now I discover that the good old days of dissent suppression are not over. Here’ s a sentence from Nature: On 15 December 2022, Rose Abramoff, an Earth scientist then at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee, and Peter Kalmus, a climate scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, walked on stage at the beginning of an AGU plenary talk and held up a banner reading “Out of the lab & into the streets”. Moments later, the organizers of the session took away the sign and asked them to leave, which they did.

I assume good Trump manners somehow trickled down to AGU (American Geophysical Union) management? They could have closed and forgotten the case after what happened to be a very minor disruption of the AGU meeting. But no: Nature informs us that In response to the protest, the AGU removed the scientists’ abstracts from the meeting programme, expelled them from the meeting and opened cases of professional misconduct against them. The cases are still ongoing. In January, Abramoff was fired from Oak Ridge as a result of the incident. Kalmus still works at JPL, but declined to tell Nature whether officials there had reprimanded him.

I don’ t like the direction this planet is taking! I sometimes wonder if, instead of fearing AI, we should not rather pray for it to take over the commands from the current mentally retarded.